Rescue You From The Rollercoaster of Perimenopause

Stop Feeding The Circus

Dr Kirstey Holland Season 1 Episode 22

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The world is loud right now, and it is engineered to keep you reacting. We start by naming the “political circus” for what it is and then choose a calmer, more powerful practice: coming back to the present with one question, “am I okay right now?” From that baseline, we talk about what nervous system regulation actually looks like in daily life, and how clarity returns the moment you stop feeding fear with your attention. Even practical scenarios like transport stress become solvable once you are thinking creatively again. 

From there, the conversation turns into a grounded, detailed look at perimenopause and inflammation. We unpack pelvic and hip pain, cycle timing, tender breasts, and what those signs can suggest about high oestrogen presentation and progesterone support. We also cover oestrogen clearance and liver support in plain language, including fibre, indole-3-carbinol, calcium D-glucarate, and how to “teeter” supplement dosing up and down so you are not guessing. If you deal with endometriosis, cyst-driven inflammation, or that feeling of being thrown around by hormone swings, you will feel seen here. 

We also go into energetic hygiene for people who hold others, why spiritual bypassing tends to boomerang, and how midlife can be an initiation rather than a crisis. On the supplement front we share nuanced takes on NAC vs glutathione (including candida considerations), creatine, and the realities of NAD therapy, including why IV NAD infusions can be more effective than oral forms and why supervision matters when histamine is in play. We finish with a simple reminder from spirit: lighten the load, laugh, dance, and make room for the next version of you. 

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Shall I admit her?

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Good morning. I've already done it.

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You've already done it.

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Correct. You're a little slow to the party, Yanoshki. Good morning, beautiful.

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Click my finger. Before you can click your fingers, I've already done it. I'm on fire this morning if you'd like to know.

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I don't know about you, but let me know. Let me know if you'd like a little bit of what I have.

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I have no doubt. Maybe maybe it's Mario's uh secret peptides that you've been out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yes. Well, you know, peptide.

SPEAKER_00

I actually think it is inketalin. Have you ever tried Encafalin, Linda? No. Encafalin might be one of your next.

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It's a I used to call it transition. Did it look oh yeah, it used to look like that.

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Yeah, I actually can see it properly. I can, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No.

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I have a take in it, but no, do you know what? I think I had you on transition because in Keflin I used to get in Kefalin is the um is the new kind of alternative for transition. Um I I think in the recesses of my mind, transition is about helping you level up to that next paradigm and taking that pain away and the distraction. I think you've I think you've been on transition.

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It's for and I will take one immediately, my darling.

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Thank you for uh do that, do that.

Avoiding The Political Circus Spiral

SPEAKER_00

Linda, I um I think when the human suit and the human experience is in collision with the soul's needs and requirements, see bab. Um sometimes we can start to experience the earthly uh kind of pull of the distraction. Um so the the you know, like we can be depressed about something or pulled into the the um the kind of mass psyche um circus. Um and I really find in Kefalon helps me not to go there, like it helps me to just stay like of course I see it, and of course sometimes I go, oh God, like you know, the latest, the latest distraction of like, oh my god, no, none of us are gonna be able to drive our cars, there's gonna be no petrol, like you know, like of course, like you know, like and and like first it was the Epstein files, and then it was like, oh my god, all these people need to be prosecuted, and then instead he just decides to drop a bomb somewhere so that he can like take the attention elsewhere, you know. So, so it's the the the circus and Christ consciousness and all of the um all of the you know mystics and sages that speak or channel, you know, um uh Yashua or Christ consciousness all told us at the beginning of this year that the young fire horse would present a political circus. And it's it's been so true to word. It's been so true to word. Like I it literally is just such a political circus. And I mean, I've only seen, I see whatever kind of slips in from the periphery, because I don't go to look, but I see just enough to know exactly what's going on. And if I don't see it, someone will tell me about it, like walking in the dog park or you know, like, and I'll be like, oh yeah, okay, great. I can yep, see where that's going. Yeah, no worries. And I'm like, okay, so we can't drive our cars, okay, no worries. Like, you know, and but I I I there's something else that I've really noticed about this this this recent one. Um tell me if you think the same. Usually I don't feel like, particularly since COVID, I don't feel like the Australian kind of governing bodies have a very high EQ. But I thought it was very interesting the way that they just went, you know what, let's just take this one off the table for people in Victoria. Public transport is free. I just thought, wow. Like that to me was like a brushstroke of like, you guys don't actually need to worry about this. And I just thought that was actually quite emotionally mature because to me that message is it's taken care of. Like we'll take care of your basic needs.

SPEAKER_03

I like that look at it because I I didn't see it like that.

SPEAKER_01

Tell me, tell me how you saw it because I know that there are alternative views about that.

SPEAKER_03

I'm thinking if they're giving you something for free at the back, they're sorting out something else. That's how I saw it. But I'm like your your way. I'm gonna take your way.

SPEAKER_01

I I no judgment in in why you thought that. Like zero judgment in why you thought that.

SPEAKER_00

But I also go, okay, from uh Maslow's hierarchy of needs perspective, I quite like the fact that I think I agree with you in terms of I'm not sure that this was their intention, but I actually think that you can receive it like this. I think you can receive it like, oh, okay, so if none of us are going to actually be able to drive anywhere or get or get anywhere, you know, we're not even gonna be able to afford to drive our cars to Kohl's to get food. They've basically said, don't worry, that basic need is taken care of. Public transport is free and then half price until 2027.

SPEAKER_03

So the thing is, I just feel like um because I found myself pausing at everything, every news that I was hearing. Because even at the human everyone's like having a meltdown, I'm like, right, you are here, you're about to lift some weight. So just do that.

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Correct.

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Because the more we give it energy, that consciousness is able to grow. So my whole thing on every goddamn avenue of all this circus is back to the basics. If if the people in my homeland, I'm gonna hit a hit a nerve somewhere, but it if my people of my homeland, if I'm bloody falling to pieces over here, when actually I'm okay because I've got the roof over my head, I got the food, I've got everything I need. So then what can I do to expand the consciousness of the collective rather than play into the story that they are selling you because they're only selling it to you to make their consciousness feel okay to doing this so that you can feed it and grow that or grow grow the other side? That's what I'm saying to everyone. So every time I'm not I'm not buying into that shit. I'm fine. Yes, it helps me as well. Otherwise, I'm gonna fall to pieces and then this one, and then what?

SPEAKER_00

I also think I I think that that question is so powerful. Like, am I okay right now? Like, am I okay right now? Like, you know, so we're not feeding into some future catastrophe, we're we're not feeding into a present catastrophe, and therefore we're not creating a past catastrophe, and we're just going, my reality is actually in perfect alignment right now. And if that's the conversation that you'd like to have over there, be my guest, but no thank you. No thank you. And if the worst case scenario is about to happen, we have free transport and then transport half price until 2027. So and guess what? I haven't had a bicycle in a while. You know, like if you if you just downregulate your nervous system, you can start to think creatively. You can be like, well, hang on a minute. What about carpooling? Like, what if like four families shared one car and then we all shared the petrol? Or what if we all got a bicycle? Like what if we, you know, what if we took it back to basics?

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Yeah.

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What if we actually planted something in our own garden that we might be able to eat? Yeah, you know, or got a goat.

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Yeah, I would love a whole I would love a goat. I would absolutely love a goat, you know. Like, yeah, yeah. I think I think I might even have one. Like maybe that'll be that'll be my property in um in some beautiful Italian Tuscany village, you know? Yeah. Oh my goodness. So yes, talk to me. What's new? What's changed?

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What do we focus on this week? What's coming up?

When The Body Forces A Reset

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Um, well, I'm just having a bit of a moment with my rebellious 20-year-old self who wanted to like who just wanted to be accepted. Belinda and was trying on all these different identities and deeply was sad of her basically trying to sing. And this is the homeopathy medicine that is bringing this up. And my hips are so sore that every if I touch the bone, it's killing me. So my base chakra, which is my security, which is my everything, um, which is my ancestral lineage in my hips. And yeah, that's where I'm at. With my shoulder, I was doubling on that. I've run out, so that's why I probably am feeling it a lot. Otherwise, synergesic was helping.

SPEAKER_00

Great. Okay. Um, what about your SPMs? Um, is that the SPMs of the lipids, the the sort of fish oil on steroids, yeah. The one in the fridge, yeah. Um yeah, I don't actually have to keep it in the fridge. Yeah, it's cold enough in Victoria, not for it to oxidize.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I just thought uh it was for the nausea, is that right? To help the nausea?

SPEAKER_00

Uh to keep oh right. Does it create a little bit of the reflux? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Okay. So yeah, your SPMs, SPMs and your synergesic, um, just to give you range, um, both of these supplements, you can go three, three, three at the highest point of prescription. So you can take three, three of each three times a day, and then you can drop that just to teach you how to teeter it. You know, so if the pain, if that kind of like ancestral hip like is just like feeling like there must be cancer in my left hip, I've got to have surgery to remove this.

SPEAKER_03

I can like so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So so that's actually also very indicative of the of the entire um pelvic cavity in perimenopause because of the stuttering ovary too. I'm interested to know what day of your cycle you're on.

SPEAKER_03

So last week when I said when you I said to you and I didn't know, I actually got it in on the 17th. So um I think I'm only like seven days or something.

SPEAKER_00

Ah, that's so interesting. Okay, so you got it on the seven. So you were like right there. You were like right, you were peak. No wonder. So you got it on the 17th.

SPEAKER_03

Are you still bleeding? No, so today's day seven, yeah. I stopped bleeding on day four.

SPEAKER_00

So one, two, three, four. So today's day five, yeah? If you got it on the 17th of April. Oh sorry, two, three, four. Oh, 15th you got it. Oh my god, that's even more so.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so one and and how many days did you bleed for? Three days, and then the uh the 18th was just spotting, so I don't really know if that counts.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, three days. And and was it heavy?

SPEAKER_03

Um, first day was light, second day was medium flow, and then we okay.

SPEAKER_01

That's great. Okay, that's really good.

SPEAKER_03

So you're not losing too much blood.

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No.

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So that that's a good thing. That's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

So one actually um clean up as well, the colour.

SPEAKER_00

Excellent, excellent, excellent. So not as much stagnation. Yeah. Easy, easy, do what you need to do. Um, so one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So day seven today. So Linda, you probably wouldn't be feeling as drained and washed out um because you haven't lost as much iron as bleed then.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I um yeah, I was able to like clean the whole house yesterday on day six.

SPEAKER_00

That's amazing. That's amazing. That's great. That's great. That's great. Okay. So

Pelvic Inflammation And Hormone Clues

SPEAKER_00

um just back to your sort of inflammation pack, right? So whenever I've got that serious, and this is very, very perimenopausal, like that um that kind of major inflammation in in the pelvis.

SPEAKER_03

It's like right on the bone, though. It's crazy. It's like I can't touch that hip bone. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, yes. And um, and and that's that level of heightened inflammation. So are you still using your progesterone? Because that's your anti-inflammatory hormone, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I know. I ran out and then I haven't gone to the yesterday, I completely didn't go. So today I've got to go get some.

SPEAKER_00

Pharmacy.

SPEAKER_03

The the progesterone, but I've been using the cream.

SPEAKER_00

Great, great, great. And you can actually use the cream on the pellet, like externally, right? Like use it on there. Yeah, perfect. And did you have tender breast? Oh my god, it was like, yeah. Um that's why the information's so bad. The estrogen is high. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. So the estrogen is super high. So a couple of different things, like um endol three carbonyl, calcium deglucurate, both those things need to go up to clear that estrogen or the estro clear. Like if there's if if if the if the tender breasts are so tender, we've got to get that estrogen clearance moving through the liver more effectively. And maybe it's a good idea to up your fiber. So even your GR restore in your power cupper, you know, instead of using one teaspoon, if you got that to two, the fiber could help get that estrogen through the large intestine and the digestive system. Yeah, because that's definitely too much estrogen in that system. So we need to make sure that the liver's optimized. So you could even up your um berberous silinurin to give the liver a little bit support, a little bit more support this cycle. And then hopefully we'll see less of an estrogen presentation in the breast. So the estrogen clear, uh, what should I okay?

SPEAKER_03

How much are you using at the moment? Um just one in the daytime.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you could you you could pretty much do that. Why don't you try the cycle to do one three times a day? You know, kind of breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Um and then the anti, I mean, obviously we'll we want to treat the root cause, which is a high estrogen presentation with a progesterone deficiency that's causing that inflammation in the pelvic area. Um, and don't forget that the the endometrial cysts produce their own level of estrogen, so they produce another level of inflammation. So that's why it's quite high too. And um, don't forget that those endometrial cysts and endometriosis itself can be passed down, you know, from generation

Rebirth Work And The 20-Year-Old Self

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to generation. So the trauma in that, you know, life-giving, you know, whatever it is that you're trying to birth now, you've got to move through this pain so that it doesn't stop you from birthing the version and you know, the version to rebirth, basically. So we're looking for your rebirth. We're looking for your you know uh initiation and re emergence. So you've moved away from the collective, because this is what's happened. Moved away from the collective that no longer serves you and you've individuated, right? So this is the work of Michael Mead. Like he talks a lot about this, and um, and and he talks about resouling the world. He actually does a lot of men's work, which is so necessary because you know, men actually need this work more than women do, but you know, we need it, we need it too. And um, and then what you're now doing is you're rebirthing yourself. So you're going through your own initiation to figure out who the hell you are and what you stand for. And then with that rebirth, you're able to, you're able to actually come back into the collective with the confidence that your 20-year-old self needed. So your 20-year-old self was she was straddling this, this, this push-pull. She was like, but this is the collective, this is where I belong. Like, this is my tribe, these are my people, this is my group. Like, why do I feel so alone? Why do I feel so rejected? Okay, how about I just try and chameleon to fit in? So I'll just do whatever it is I need to do in order to fit in, and I'll completely abandon myself, which feels even more painful than trying to fit in with this bunch of people that I don't even want to fit in with.

SPEAKER_01

This is so confusing.

SPEAKER_07

You just rebell heavily as well.

SPEAKER_03

What's that? I really rebelled heavily in my 20s, like a lot. Um there you there you go. It's like one bipolar, like it was like one chameleon, and the next minute I was like, nah, off the right. So I think it's been quite intense.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think I've just allowed to land and allow her to be exactly who she is, because unapologetically, you will then attract the right people to you. You know, you will literally just you won't even need to attract them to you, you will just be with them because you're able to be with you.

SPEAKER_03

I uh yeah, in my personal um astrology, I'm having a midlife crisis right now.

SPEAKER_00

Great, great. I highly recommend that you reframe that to midlife awakening.

SPEAKER_03

Awakening story, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

This is a beautiful, this is this is the sexiest crisis I've ever seen in my life. I love it.

SPEAKER_03

I and that used to be my word, and I miss that word.

SPEAKER_01

Um crisis or sexy.

SPEAKER_03

Definitely sexy. Um excellent. I I just feel like yeah, I'm I'm kind of losing. No, I actually this is very interesting though. Like I can't so like what you said, you you broke away from the thing, and that was like all the angel, and that was like all the grieving and the peeling myself off the floor every moment. And now I'm like in this, like, I'm doing this. I'm like, I'm crying, and then but I'm like, this crying is gonna help me come to the other side.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm just like like it, it's it's more like that, but at the same time, I'm like, there's there's not much feng shui uh proposals being able to come out from me because I am more trying to do this weaving, and I don't think it's separate from what I what I speak about, but I'm no, it's not because the truth becomes clearer and clearer and clearer and clearer. You know? It's it's not separate, it's all exactly the same. Yeah, because you've got to remember people are not purchasing the feng shui consult, they're purchasing the consultant.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, so they so so so people don't purchase coaches. That well, people don't purchase coaching, they purchase coaches. You know, that it's it's like, you know, and you know that well, you're like, right, it's Danny, it has to be Danny, you know, like you know, it's it's not it's not you know Melissa Ambrussini, it's Danny. This is this is my coach. Like, so your people will be like, Linda's doing it, Linda's doing my home. Like, that's it. It's not about the the consultation, it's about the consultant. So the clearer you get with your messaging, the clearer your business model and your business message gets too.

SPEAKER_03

And and just right now I'm in the thick of like recalibrating that.

SPEAKER_00

So Yeah, and that's okay. Sometimes you have to go in to be able to come out, you know. Like this is why in traditional cultures, like the Isith Kosa tribe that you know I was born into essentially, like in in South Africa. Um, I was born in a place called Umtata. So this is where the Isith Kosa tribe live, and they have an initiation. So, so this is the traditional initiation, the traditional peoples, right? So you basically you're in community, you're in group, and then you have to, as a 13-year-old, go out into the bush by yourself, build a home, build a fire, find food. So that is a and I mean, can you imagine how petrifying that is? Like literally being alone in the in the forest, in the woods, in the in the wilderness, in the wild, you know. So that's what you're doing right now. So you're initiating, you know, you're going through your own initiation, and that's about phoenixing. It's about burning the whole thing to the ground. You actually said that. You actually just said something about that. But it's like burning the whole thing to the ground so that you can phoenix out of it more yourself than ever before. So you don't need a script for that, you don't need to do any homework for that. You just need to allow that to come through. Because that is who you are now, that is who you are transforming into, you know? And you can you can actually speed that up. Like there's no timeline there that you have to there's there's no timeline here that you have to, it's not like, oh, by the 30th of April, I'll be done. You can actually be like, you know what? By Thursday, I'm done. You know, like that's it. Um, on Thursday, the phoenix rises. This fire is gonna burn to the ground. You know what I mean? Like you could literally, whatever feels right for you. Like, and sometimes it's about like how many more times do I need to sleep on this? Like sometimes I really like that sort of grounding into the biochemistry so that the well, we know that in the middle of the night or when we're in our deepest sleep, our our memory consolidates and our our wisdom consolidates in the brain through that gymphatic system. So you could actually just ask your body, like, how many more nights do I need to sleep on this before I emerge or before I, you know, before I'm done with my my entire phoenixing process, you know?

SPEAKER_03

I think I I think I'm actually part of me is more open to like being like just say I'm jumping on and I'm saying hi, and I'm just like, so it's right now this is just happening for me right now. And yeah, I like the liberation because great.

Energetic Hygiene For People In Service

SPEAKER_03

I just think I just think personal energetic hygiene is extremely important, and um, especially more so if I'm being of service to others, I think that your personal energetic hygiene is extra important because that you're giving a piece of yourself. So if you are not energetically, you know, hygienic, then there's gonna be an imbalance of what you can serve to others. So I'm just gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, absolutely. That's it. That's it, that's it. You no, no, the spiritual bypassing doesn't work, it just comes back again and again and again until you've learned the lesson. And I truly believe, like one of my professors said to me, you have to come to every single conversation, um, you know, as the catalyst, as the spaceholder, as the doctor, like whoever, whatever you want to identify yourself with, but you have to come to that conversation as the empty vessel purely to hold. You know, and and you cannot come full of your own shit. You've got to clear that stuff out. You've got to absolutely clear that stuff out. So the energetic hygiene, like it takes. My husband was very confused in the beginning of our relationship where he was like, What are you doing? Like, I would be like, Okay, uh, goodbye. And he'd be like, What do you mean? And I'd be like, do not bother me. I'm busy. And he'd be like, What are you doing in there? Like, I would literally, I was living in a place at the time where he was dating me and it had this, um, it had this little like roller door, right? And the roller door would sort of cut off the living area from the bedrooms, the bathroom, my dressing room, and all of that sort of stuff. And he'd be sitting on the couch, like, you know, he he just couldn't, like he was, he was a little bit like infatuated in the beginning, and it sort of really annoyed me because I was like, Oh, could you go already? Like I wasn't used to having someone around. And I'm also a little bit um, I'm from an attachment style perspective, I'm a little bit avoidant when it comes to people super close to me. And he's anxiously attached.

SPEAKER_01

So he was like, Oh, I want to be around you at 24-7. And I was like, Oh my god, I could maybe see you like, you know, Wednesday, you know, like I want you, but I want you over there. Like, you know, and so he'd be sitting on the couch pretending to work like he had a meeting that he couldn't possibly get in his car and go, you know.

SPEAKER_00

So I'd like shut this door and I'd be on the other side doing all of the energetic hygiene. Like, he'd be like, wow, it takes you a long time to get ready in the morning. And I was like, Yes, actually it does, because I'm doing a whole lot of stuff back there. Like I am meditating, I am clearing out the day before, I am clearing out the messaging, I'm clearing out the downloads, you know, like you literally need to do the cobwebs, you need to do the mopping and the rearranging of absolutely all of your energetic work so that you can present as this beautiful vessel that has space to receive, hold, decipher, percolate, and then return, you know, because you're in service. You cannot be in service if your if your vessel is full, it has to be empty. So, yeah, definitely. So you can be like I'm preparing my vessel in the best way possible, peeps. You know, here it is.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, that's just where I'm at. But if that enkees I feel like that sounds familiar, I think maybe En Kephilan, so yeah.

Enkefalin And Pain Perception Support

SPEAKER_00

I really think that sometimes the um technical data sheet reduces reduces the magic of the botanicals to a point where they don't seem as precious and as special as they really are. Because we've got to remember that this this is this is you know, it's it it's inert, right? And then once it comes into the body, it's suddenly it's suddenly alive and it's and it's it's kind of um engaging with the biochemistry and it's engaging with the qi and it's engaging with the the processes of digestion, the processes of metabolism, and the processes of integration. And I really feel enkefilin is for me, it it it provides me with the it provides me with a sense of internal balance and um an internal sense of grounding to the point where I don't need to go outside of myself. Um does that does that make sense? And and like it it's just a it's like a happiness hit, but it's not like I don't suddenly go like, oh my god, I feel amazing. It's just this like it's just this content. Like if if I if I were to it makes you feel content. And and and I think part of its beauty is that it does have the phenylalanine in it. And I know I I really do believe that you have had phenylalanine before. What phenylalanine does is it it stops the body perceiving the pain. So even though the pain is still there, it stops the body perceiving it. So if there's a little back pain or if there's a little, you know, like period pain or endometriosis pain, the body just sort of can't perceive it. So it's the subperception of like living in a body with no pain. So and I think that in itself is actually quite freeing because pain can keep us very small and it can keep us stuck. And um, and it's it does have tryptophan in it, which is the precursor to serotonin, the feel-good hormone. And um, and then it just has some basic, like some really basic co-nutrients that support the tryptophan and the phenylalanine and the glutamine. So it just has um pyrodoxine, um, zinc and some mag, but it's very, very powerful. It it and it and it is that sort of it's just optima, no, like optimistic neurotransmitter support. That's what I would say. It's got that level of optimism about it. That that's how it feels. Yeah. And it's Orthoplex is um orthoplex is a very interesting company because they used to own Dr. Vera's. Do you do you remember Dr. Vera's? Dr. Vera was Henry O'Siki's wife, and in my opinion, there has never been a more powerful supplement brand on the market than Dr. Vera's, and of course they shut it down.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Of course they shut it down, you know. But they yeah, so uh what what what Henry's company, so Henry's now, I think Henry's past, so his son has taken over the company, and I think what his son is now doing is now sort of flying underneath the radar, but still within TGA FDA, sort of trying to recreate what his mother had. Yeah. But she was the OG. Yeah. So in Kefflin, if that's something that you feel like you need, I mean that came out of a joke this morning, but it uh it actually might be nothing is uh, you know, that might be the serendipity that that we needed, you know.

SPEAKER_01

I'm happy to add it for you if it's something that you'd like to try.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I might

Creatine NAC And Supplement Discernment

SPEAKER_03

try it. Um, the other question I had was um I've been back onto the do you know are you familiar with Symbiotica, the brand Symbiotica? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I I like their creatine and symbiotica creatine, great.

SPEAKER_03

Because it's got the lipomycelle in there as well.

SPEAKER_00

Awesome, awesome. The vitamin C.

SPEAKER_03

And he's got a separate one for vitamin C, but I've um yeah is it liposomal creatine?

SPEAKER_00

Is that what you mean?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, okay. Um and he's got something separate for glutamine. Is that something that's going to my and that's in the gut, the gut support.

SPEAKER_00

So glutathione glutathione um is the um so NAC, you know the NAC that I prescribe for you? Yes, yes, yeah. NAC turns into glutathione in the body, it's the precursor. So the NAC supports the glutathione. The only problem with glutathione for women is it can increase candida. So I never usually prescribe glutathione on its own. Um yeah, so that's why I always prescribe the NAC, because it does turn into glutathione in that pathway so that we can move through the liver. But a lot of women find when they take glutathione on its own, it turns into candida or it can exacerbate candida in the system. I mean, not everyone. So if it was something that you felt drawn to, like I'm not sort of saying no, but just caution, just caution, because you don't want a fungal or a candida type infection in the in the vagina. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Get the way. Um the other thing that's like recently has the NAD um and I just trust this company.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, the the symbiotica? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

And then he has a NAD, it's got something else. I think it has D3 or I can't even remember the name, but I just know it's an NAD. It's a blue blue thing that you just drink. Is that something that I can move on to? Because you said last time I asked just to hold on for a sec.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, from the NAD, yeah, yeah. Look, I think if you feel ready for it, I think if you if you've cleared the stuff, yes. Um with NAD, I know that it's very difficult to absorb um uh through the gastrointestinal tract. So sometimes a um uh IV, NAD IV is actually um is a better idea. I don't know if you've ever had IVs. No, I haven't. Yeah. What's that?

SPEAKER_03

Besides when I'm in hospital, that's the only time I've had.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So so so the infusions, the the the NAD kind of I think it's actually having a resurgence.

NAD Infusions And Doing It Safely

SPEAKER_00

I mean, they've been around for a really long time. Yeah, but there's um let me um give me one second, I'll give you a contact. Um this woman's name is Robin and her company name is called Euphoria, um and she does IV infusions, and her mobile number is 0421250140. Have you got that? If I was gonna take NAD, I would speak to Robin before I did um before I did oral NAD. I'd speak to her about um and she actually she actually might suggest that you prepare yourself because you've really got to be cellularly receptive to nad. So I think what happened is you had a fair bit of other stuff going on that I was like, you know what, I think we need to clear this first, and then nad might be appropriate. So what I would actually say to Robin is she's she's one of us, Linda. She, she, you, you, she, she, you, you wouldn't think she is. Um, she's very cautious, um, and she's very protective. So unless you give her free reign to go for it, she doesn't. But as soon as you go, girl, you're you're in good company, like go for it. She, you know, like it's you're all good. Um and honestly, she is a bit of an expert on that. Um, so yeah, yeah. And she's helped people with major chronic illness and and um IV infusions. She's come to my house twice or three times. And if it wasn't her, it was one of her colleagues. I highly recommend her. She's brilliant. Ask her if she can come. Um, she comes to your house and she'll do the infusions for you. She did a couple of infusions for my son while he was going through year 12. And um I think with the NAD, she'd actually say to you, let's first clear the system, let's get some IV, vitamin B, vitamin C, magnesium, and prep you. And then I think she'd be like, okay, if you really want to do the NAD, I do believe that you've got to do it in like a kind of like three sessions or something like that. I know that there's and it can actually feel very shit. I did the NAD and I did have to stop it at one point in time because my histamine was so bad at the time. Because with my perimenopausal symptoms, um, I'm very sensitive to uh external hay fevery things. And unfortunately, those bloody um those trees are just outside my heart house. That that, you know, those trees with the puffy balls. So they actually cause a lot of um like kind of hay fever symptoms in me and an increase in in histamine. So if you've got a lot of histamine in the body, nad can actually feel it can start to feel really shit. And I think it did. And I was like, oh, I don't think I can do this anymore. And she's like, Oh, I'm so sorry, we're gonna have to stop the IV. And I think I still had a third or two-thirds of the nad left, and it's very expensive.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So it's one of those things that you don't want to do until your body is ready for it, and you do want to do it in a supervised way, because if you start taking the the oral nad, and then you start having all of these different kinds of um symptoms, you're not gonna know which way's up. Yeah. So that that that I think is I think it's the most efficacious and I think it's the most powerful way to do nad, but it is complicated and there's a process to it. Yeah. Yeah. But I think people will try to just sell you nad and make it sound like it's the miracle drug, but it really isn't.

SPEAKER_03

It's like I just was curious and I I honor your opinion and your value wisdom.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. But I I wouldn't say no. I would just say make sure that you go with go go with the guru. Go with the guru. Like she she's definitely she's definitely a guru in this space. And she's she's a qualified nurse. She's been doing this for many years. And like I said, she's she's supported lots of people through long COVID, she's supported lots of people through vax damage. Like she does incredible work in this space, like really incredible work. Yeah. I think you'll I think you'll love that. It's a it's a it's a good sort of pathway, if if that's the way that you want to look at that. Yeah, but no, that sounds cool. That sounds cool. Pleasure. Who who is um who is Symbiotica? Who is he?

SPEAKER_03

So it's it's a Persian guy, Shervin. Um, but he's a co-founder, it's actual doctor. Um oh gosh, I don't know her name. Uh again, it's in America. Yeah, cool. Yeah, but he's a co founder and I followed his sites. He's like everything stona and all of them, but like. back of his hand. He's just very full of wisdom. I just love listening to him.

SPEAKER_00

Um eyes are around he said he makes sure everyone knows about you know just like not breathing in the stuff but he gives like the in-depth the stuff like I'm going to you know like yeah great great great yeah shoot me shoot me his link via Instagram yeah awesome we all need to connect each other to everyone yeah it's great um I used to take his D3 before I started uh before I met you um yeah great he's got a what's it called oh just the vitamins he actually makes them like so they taste good so people actually have it like some absolutely but it tastes so good yeah absolutely yeah compliance is important right like you're never gonna take anything at this shit yeah adrenal um support and that one tasted like licorice um wow it tasted yeah it was almost like it was a a really big hit but it was like so I felt so good taking it but then I've glycerated glycer is it is is it glycerated licorice is actually excellent for the adrenals and if you take it in the morning it helps you with your cortisol awakening response and it's actually also really good yeah and it's also really good for um digestion so both so both cortisol awakening response for glycer glycerated glycerated um licorice but I mean if you've got high blood pressure you've got to be careful licorice but yeah with that glycerated licorice in the morning it spikes the cortisol awakening response so you also have to be careful when you take it because you don't want to be spiking cortisol close to bed or later in the day so it's important to take it first thing sparks that cortisol awakening response and starts that digestive fire.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah

Toxin Binders And Timing Your Doses

SPEAKER_03

it's really good yeah yeah very very good like that um yeah it's just very very good um yeah I just trust what he and he's got the greatest shilajit he's got um salt from Iceland or something he just divine yeah um what did you say before you just said the salt from Iceland?

SPEAKER_00

The shilajit you know the shilajit the the black pasty stuff that's meant to remove the heavy metals in your body and the um okay okay all right like a song uh like a like a charcoal or like a it's really pasty and thick.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah S H I L A I think it's J I T Yeah okay cool yeah well it sounds like an osmotic toxin remover like is that is that what it is it's it's something like that it's super thick and pasty like you just need a little teaspoon.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah some of that stuff is made from like volcanic ash is that sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah good good we are um there are a couple of different yeah there are a couple of different um no it's it's it's in the recesses of my mind the word that you're saying I also can't um I don't know whether it's shilogip but I do know that there are a couple of different mechanisms of action and they work in the same way. So that and there's a um I'm gonna forget the name as well but there's another gel on the market as well. I think it's called enterocel or entero gel but they work in the same way. They basically move through the system and they kind of like it's it's through this sort of osmotic absorption. So they kind of like sort of just like a sponge. They sort of sponge up all of the toxins and they help you eliminate them. But you've got to be careful with these products because you've got to make sure that they're away from food um quite substantially and away from the other supplementation you take otherwise they'll take that other goodness with them because they're so good at basically vacuuming you out. Yeah yeah yeah yeah but I think that's the mechanism of action now that's super cool. Yeah definitely send me his link I'd love to love to follow him. Yeah he's great I I I trust you yeah I trust your intuition too he's yeah he's someone you've got a good you've got a good bullshit monitor you know what I mean you're like uh nah that's not working for me he's just he's very um yeah uh there's something else I wanted to say is so with this inflammation that I'm feeling I'm using the ante on the SPM and and the synergesic when it rises so the yeah they're the three the easter clear they're the three that's gonna help kind of just yes yes yes yes so with the estroclea I don't think you need more than um one three times a day with the berber and sily marin that will also push the liver to get rid of the estrogen how much of that are you taking you're just taking one daily at night I was taking yeah so two but yeah one in the afternoon and one at night. Yeah so the berber and silimarin leave that there because you don't want to push the liver too much and then you've got the oystroclea one three times a day and with the SPM and synergesic I just want to quickly quickly teach you how to teeter the dosing.

How To Titrate Anti-Inflammatory Dosing

SPEAKER_00

So you can go you can go so when I go three three three that means like three in the morning three in the afternoon three at night and then you can go you can do things like you know three two three so then you drop one and then you can go three two two and then you can go two two two you know what I mean like you can start to and then you can go you know two one two and then you can go you know two one one and then you can go one one one so that you can start to like teeter it down and you can do this you can do this in days or you can do this in weeks. I think for you I reckon you could do it in days you know and then and you don't have to do it that complex but you can just sort of go if you wanted to keep it really simple you could go three three three two two two one one one and then try to get it down to one daily as a maintenance. That would be the ideal yeah sometimes the body needs more so sometimes you know sometimes your your three daily would be your maintenance dose sometimes your two daily would be your maintenance dose and then at different times depending on how high the estrogen is because it's the estrogen causing the inflammation um your your maintenance dose will differ. So at the moment my synergesic maintenance dose is somewhere between one and two and my spm dose is at three like I can't get it lower than that otherwise something niggles. But in an ideal world I'd love to get my SPMs to one or two and my synergesic to one yeah but they're just like eh yeah because the roller coaster of the estrogen is causing that inflammation yeah. Okay then thank you I just wanted to clear that yeah you ready for a card young lady excellent any any other questions?

SPEAKER_03

No good I came on with like that 20 year old I was like listening to this song and it's just like um yeah helping me like kind of be with her and activating her at the same time oh I don't I don't think I was in more of a of a painful place than in my 20s.

SPEAKER_00

I don't I don't think I like I mean 16 to 18 was pretty hard for me but um the 20s were just and you know I don't know if you've read The Awakened Brain by Dr. Lisa Miller. She's she's oh my god you'd love that book The Awakened Brain by Dr. Lisa Miller is incredible. Um the um attached is the book about the attachment stars I think you'd love that too um but Lisa Miller talks about the fact that there's a physiological depression that has to happen in our 20s and then there's a physiological depression that has to happen in midlife and there's a physiological depression that happens again in our 80s and there are actually these sort of doorways into the next paradigm I guess you know and makes so much sense like I was doing something very similar in my 20s like I I got to Australia and I was a you know I I had a boyfriend at the time and you know him and I were probably probably never should have really well I mean of course I should have been with him because I needed to learn that lesson but um I was trying to be friends with his friends like we got home to Australia. This was his homeland he had this whole group of friends men and women and I just was like not accepted by the women I was rejected I was sort of like just I just felt so alone like I would be in the company of all of these people and I'd be sitting there in such pain and feel so alone like it was devastating yeah you know it was absolutely devastating oh god it just crushed my soul it just absolutely crushed me yeah so I get I get it I get it okay dearest Linda are you taking yourself and your problems too seriously maybe fear of

A Card Pull On Fun And Lightness

SPEAKER_00

the future is weighing on you we would like you to take a little break from all and start having fun. When you stop fixating on what has been making you heavy hearted we get a chance to move some magic in your direction we just need you to let go a little spirit needs some room and gets very inspired by your laughter when you have fun. When was the last time you got really loose, silly and goofy maybe you need to go dancing or watch some very funny comedy to make you laugh or call the one friend you know will remind you of how ridiculous and delightful giddy you can be you will return refreshed and renewed and ready to once again see the world as less daunting and you will be ready to receive in perfect timing the bounty that spirit has for you. Don't you just love how much we care about you I think it's time to take that beautiful 20 year old dancing gorgeous yeah yeah because we can we can go back into the heaviness of that energy right we can go back into the heaviness of that energy as we move through it and and and heal it. But I think it is also important to shake it off like and sometimes we just need that reminder of like oh actually yeah I'm not there thank god you know I can shake this off you know I'm not in that awful space.

SPEAKER_01

I was like what the fuck's wrong just really woke up like what the hell yeah yeah yeah that's right shake it off baby yeah jump around jump turn that music on and jump around the living room yeah definitely I'm just I'm gonna send you a picture of this card thank you thank you very shining you gorgeous human being or you gorgeous soul in a human suit thank you for your wisdom as always and it's an absolute pleasure I love it I love it keep shining yeah phoenix baby phoenix hard yeah and don't spend too much time down there come up quickly we need you thank you